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    Your Views: Phorm gets dumped

Our readers weigh in on BT's decision to not roll out Phorm's deep packet inspection system.

By Nicole Kobie, 7 Jul 2009 at 13:48

Behavioural advertising firm Phorm hasn't had a good week - and it's only Tuesday.

Yesterday, the only UK ISP to trial Phorm's WebWise traffic scanning system declared it had no plans to roll out the service anytime soon. The BT statement sent Phorm's shares sliding and set its critics celebrating, while Carphone Warehouse jumped on the bandwagon to declare it had no plans to implement Phorm's system, either.

We asked readers of our biweekly newsletter what they thought about Phorm, and they weren't exactly filled with pity.

While Steve wasn’t happy with the secret trials, he noted Phorm isn’t the only organisation collecting information, highlighting Google and the Internet Watch Foundation. “Phorm is a great technology in terms of how it works and at least Phorm were open in telling people,” he wrote, adding that the Wikipedia/Scorpions incident showed the IWF has the ability to block access to sites. “The IWF maintain the banned list in a completely nontransparent manner and this is more scary than Phorm.”

Many wrote in to say “good riddance” Phorm, but Frank got right to the point. “Phorm is just another invasion of an individuals privacy and I am glad to see that BT has seen sense and discontinued working with them.”

He added: “Personally, any IP that takes up with Phorm or any other company who implements this sort of software will not be a company that I will deal with.”

Ian agreed. “I am extremely unhappy with the concept behind Phorm, I don't like the principal nor do I trust that it would be to implemented fairly and transparently,” he wrote. “I am currently with Virgin, if they deploy it I won't be.”

Mike said: “I think BT have made the right decision and that Virgin Media and Carphone Warehouse are treading on thin ice of public perception by not distancing themselves from it immediately.”

His complaint with the system is the invasion of privacy – and he’s not joking, either. “In terms of being the most hated activities, I think only torture, child abuse and a few other things are perceived as being worse than forced spying on ordinary people. We are talking about the potential to destroy liberty. Wars have been fought over that.”

Gordon said no utility – or postman, for that matter – has the right to monitor his behaviour. “The internet should be simply another utility like gas, electricity and water. I pay for a supply of bandwidth and I do not expect my use of that bandwidth to be routinely monitored especially by a commercial organisation looking to serve me 'more relevant advertising'.”

He added: “I do not expect my snail-mail to be opened in transit and neither should my email. I do not expect my telephone conversations to be monitored, though I accept that, with proper and considered judicial authorisation it may, sometimes, be necessary to do such things when investigating crimes.”

David couldn’t help but find the situation punny. “Delighted to see that news item,” he wrote in, adding: “It'll almost certainly be resurrected in another Phorm!”

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not the whole story

many of the articles focus on the end user and their privacy, the OIX side of things does on the surface seem to handle this reasonably well, the issues that many of us against phorm object to the not the advertising (as we are well aware of the need for advertising on the internet and the income it provides for some sites)but the use of DPI (a stealthy snooping technology) to gather the information used to target the adverts. as part of this it scrapes most websites under a assumed consent, regardless of terms of use, privacy policies or copyright policies people need to look at both side, both the end user and the website owner whose own content is being used to aid its competitors (if they are OIX members) to target adverts i welcome BT putting phorm / webwise on the back burner (not they have not totally ruled it out) and a similar stance by talk talk. Virgin have been sitting on the fence for so long it is a wonder the exec do not have splinters in their rears it would be far better if they publically canned phorm / webwise instead of putting it on hold one last thing, if you look at https://nodpi.org/forum/index.php/topic,403.0.html you will see links that seem to show phorm have issues with their patent applications being reject as not being unique, and that is a whole different story peter

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