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    Symantec and AVG upgrades ‘misleading’ customers

A Which? investigation says Symantec and AVG upgrade rules could mislead customers.

By Tom Brewster, 3 Dec 2010 at 17:19

Anti-virus

Symantec and AVG have been accused of misleading customers when it comes to how upgrades and licenses work, Which? has suggested.

When users sign up to improved Symantec or AVG anti-virus solutions before the license on their current version runs out, any time left on the license will not be passed onto the updated deal, an investigation by the campaigning group claimed.

“Symantec and AVG are operating a confusing and arguably misleading anti-virus upgrade service,” said Sarah Kidner, Which? computing editor.

“If consumers are given the opportunity to upgrade at a reduced price, it’s perfectly reasonable for them to expect their new licence to run on from the end of the existing licence.”

Both Symantec and AVG defended themselves, with the former justifying its actions saying its upgrades provided additional features and more comprehensive protection.

“As is very common with the software industry, all our products have a specific time frame - one or two years from activation date – and we recommend that our customers renew their products as close to their expiration dates to ensure that they maximise this time,” AVG told Which?.

In a statement sent to IT PRO, Symantec said the Which? investigation was “misleading to customers for several reasons.”

“Firstly, Which? has not clarified the distinction between product upgrades and subscription renewals, and we believe the press release may mislead customers into believing that they will lose subscription time when they renew their current product or download the latest version of their product,” the Norton manufacturer said.

“Secondly, Which? suggests incorrectly that customers who upgrade to a different product prior to the expiration of the time remaining on their existing product subscription are not informed that any time remaining on their existing product subscriptions will not be added to their upgrade. Symantec gives customers the option of renewing their Norton product subscriptions or purchasing upgrade products containing additional security features.”

Although the Which? release which Symantec referred to did not specifically mention free anti-virus products, the security giant said it disagreed with the research suggesting free security software offers comparable protection to Norton products.

Symantec said tests carried out by the likes of Dennis Technology Labs, which runs at the same publishing house as IT PRO, “consistently rank Norton at the top for effectiveness.”

AVG claimed the Which? report contained some inaccuracies but only because the security company gave incorrect data to the campaigning group.

"The Which? report states incorrectly that customers of the paid-for version of AVG could lose time on their existing subscription when renewing prior to the expiration date," a statement from AVG read.

"If a customer renews an AVG product at any point before expiry, the start date of the renewal is only from the original expiry date, and this has always been AVG’s position."

Which? also asked a number of other providers about their practices, with McAfee saying it only sent out upgrades approximately 35 days before the expiration date of any existing subscription.

Panda Security, meanwhile, said it added on the additional time left on an existing subscription onto the new one.

“No one expects a discounted offer to cancel out the remaining time left on an existing subscription; if they did, they most likely wouldn’t buy it. And let’s not forget many of these promotions are for a limited time only,’ Kidner added.

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Response from AVG

Hello this is AVG Technologies,

AVG today spoke with representatives of Which? Computing to clarify concerns raised by a recent Which? Computing report claiming consumers who updated early were essentially double charged for the period between the actual renewal date and the required renewal date. The confusion is the result of incorrect data that was provided to Which? Computing by AVG. AVG regrets the confusion this has caused for our customers.

The Which? report states incorrectly that customers of the paid-for version of AVG could lose time on their existing subscription when renewing prior to the expiration date.

If a customer renews an AVG product at any point before expiry, the start date of the renewal is only from the original expiry date, and this has always been AVG’s position.

While AVG’s position on renewals confirms that the system already in place is the correct one, the Which? Computing report does highlight consumer uncertainty around renewals for our paid-for version and we are grateful for them in doing this. AVG is taking steps to ensure that it is entirely clear that product renewals ahead of the expiry date start from the original expiry date and not before.

AVG has been offering a market-leading free product to millions of customers for more than 10 years. The company’s mission has long been to provide customers with high end security tools at no charge. The majority of AVG customers use our product for free, and this allows them to try a very robust anti-virus product without ever having to make a purchase.

By AVGTechnologies on Friday Dec 3

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This is news?

My bosses have me install Symantec on my work machine. They pay. Fine. On my home machine I ran it. First time I cam to upgrade was around Christmas. I duly did so.

Next time I got notified that I needed to renew must have been end of November and I did so promptly.

When the following year, I was asked to renew in October, I realised what was going on. The software was so insistent that I renew that trying to work normally through the repeated reminders was quite impossible.

I searched for a telephone number and spent the night trying to get through to Symantec, with no joy. I left them contact information. Nothing.

I ripped Symantec out (no easy task given the hooks left into the operating system, but being a software engineer by trade, I managed (I pity those without these skills).

I found a free product (no names, no pack drill) and considered the risk. Determining that there was no risk in using this free software on my hardware configuration, I would never again even consider paying for these products to suck the life out of my machine.

The corporation demands that I use it on my work machine: that's their call to make, and their licence money to pay out.

By NeilA on Tuesday Dec 7

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