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Posted in Uncategorized on November 8, 2007 at 2:44 pm

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I’m in a dilema on whether to buy a Macbook or Asus eee PC - or both.    If I got a Mac I’d still have to keep the work PC for use at work - but would work from home using Citrix just fine on the mac.

Reason for mac:
1/   I really want to move to a Mac - the form factor isn’t massive and the kit is reliable (unlike the Dells laptop work have issued me that I currently suffer with.    It seems to need constant maintance).
I’m doing a fair bit of JAVA/SOAP programming at the moment (at home) - and although OSX doesn’t currently have JDK/JRE 1.6 - that isn’t a big issue as everything I write is JDK 1.5 based anyhow.    I’m sure not all Dell laptops are as bad as the D610 I use (certainally at work with 5 of us with them I’m the only one who has had a new mainboard, system disk, memory, battery, and screen within 2 years) - and I’m sure my experience isn’t typical.

2/   With parallels/bootcamp I could run and develop/test the few Windows apps I have written in the past still using my spare MSDN XP license, but stay in a BSD environement the rest of the time as most of the kit I work on  just needs a serial console/web browser nowadays.

Downsides:

1/   The mac isn’t ulta portable.    eee basically is.
2/    I already have a work laptop - so when travelling I already take this - the personal laptop would be taken for personal photos etc whilst on road.     Would need a 2-laptop bag for the airport!

Upsides to the eee:
1/    It is ultra portable - wouldn’t need a 2-laptop bag for work trips.
2/   It runs linux.
3/   Excellent battery life.

Downsides:
1/   Small screen - too small?   Will need to see one first!
2/   Small keyboard - is it too small?
3/   Would NOT be able to run Windows apps on the box.    This could also be an upside.
4/   Limited ram/storage.    With my photography from one weekend sometimes taking 3Gb - I would need ot leave photos on mem cards when travelling rather than dumping to laptop - especially on an extended trip.
5/   Unsure whether I could do any Java work whilst on road.

So as the above - the macbook will do everything, but maybe be to big.   The eee is the right form factor, but won’t do everything!     I am not doing personal work on the office laptop - as experience ref: its reliability means I don’t trust it with my personal photos/data - let alone code I have toiled hours over.

Any suggestions on other things I should consider?    I don’t want the super mini Sony I think it is that I’ve seen with the tiny screen/tiny keyboard…    The OLP laptop looks interesting though once it is realised to the public - I’m just concerned how usable it will be for adults - its certainally a good rival to the eee.

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Comment by Dave Adamson - November 8, 2007 on 6:36 pm

Hi there, I’ve got a Sony UX1XN (I may blog about it) and it is quite small though incredibly nice to use (battery life sucks, though.) Also got a Macbook and of the Eeee or the Macbook, I’d go for the Macbook and use Bootcamp to run Windows. If you’re still not sure, if there’s a Apple store or KRCS anywhere near you, go in and pick one up and wave it about. Not sure whether you’ll find the Eeee anywhere retail-wise, but you never know. A decent sized Sony store would probably have the Sony Micro PC for you to take a look at.

Comment by Dan Jones - November 9, 2007 on 9:53 am

Yeah the UX1XN was the exact Sony I have looked at - I have seen one and sadly the keyboard did disagree with me … When I’m next in London (post iphone launch madness) I’ll pop to the apple store and look at the laptops. I now need to find a London vendor where I can checkout the eee’s form factor - any ideas?

Comment by Simon Weston - November 9, 2007 on 10:57 am

I’ve been on the Asus website having a wander. They have a ‘find nearest stockist’ option, which migh help… Having almost decided to get one, and been annoyed to find no info on it on Asus site until they come out, I was intrigued to find the Asus press release. Where they say there will be a model with a 10″ screen for an extra $60 odd. £250 inc VAT for that? It’s clearly the same form factor without the huge gap round the screen. I also fancy a OLPC, but can’t see them selling to Europe (or even the US with their production delays) for a good while.

Comment by Simon Bisson and Mary Branscombe - November 9, 2007 on 12:11 pm

The Asus Eee PC has a *very* small keyboard; very small. I happily touch type on an HTC Dash and I find the Eee keyboard to small; it really is child sized. There are small machines that don’t have that disadvantage. For really light and really ultraportable with a DVD drive check the Tosh R500. OTOH none of the Macs are exactly lightweight and slimline… And the Eee is cheap - but if you want to give it usable storage it’s going to be pricey (increase the memory to 2GB, add an 8GB SD card and you’ve added half the price, add a bigger SSD and you’ve doubled the price as well as having had to tear the machine about). -Mary

Comment by Dan Jones - November 9, 2007 on 1:23 pm

Thanks Mary - you are right about the R500. Thats defintely one to consider that I hadn’t even seen before. Now I just need to find how good the battery actually is on that unit! The battery life figured with a SSD are truely amazing if the reviews are true. It looks to be be a perfect combination of good engineering and size (so a exactly what I’m after). Now I just need to be paid a nice Christmas bonus to pay for it!

Comment by Christopher Phillips - November 13, 2007 on 10:15 am

This is a no brainer - just wait till Mac Expo 2008 - the Mac ultra-portable is almost 99% certain to be unveiled and then you have your single laptop solution and a very lightweight package. Rumors are firming up that this will encompass some touch technology and a really nice form factor (13′ screen, Santa Rosa, a 64gig NAND disk, droool….). This is one occasion where a wait until after Christmas really will be worth the angst of seven weeks of suspended techno-lust

Comment by Simon Bisson and Mary Branscombe - November 14, 2007 on 10:52 pm

13″ isn’t an ultraportable. I have a 12.1″ widescreen - the Tosh 400 - and it’s on the edge of ultraportable. any bigger and it’s just thin and light. The R500 I’ve seen held up by a helium balloon. I’ll have a review unit within days too, so I can check the battery life. Another option is the also thin and light HP 2710p which is a tablet with 4-5 hours battery life, 10 hours if you add a thin battery slab and 10% extra battery life if you drop the $999 extra for the SSD (review unit also arriving soon). Apple has no incentive to innovate this much and for the market size they can’t afford to.

Comment by Dave Adamson - November 17, 2007 on 8:57 pm

Talking about defining ultraportable, I’m stunned by the number of adverts that list the weight as “featherlight” or “featherweight” and then say “2kg.” Just what bird is shedding these feathers!

Comment by Simon Bisson and Mary Branscombe - November 18, 2007 on 1:52 am

That would be a roc, Dave… my definition is what Gartner calls the sub-one kilogram wasteland (because of all the devices in that category that haven’t made it mainstream). -Mary

Comment by Jacques Daviault - December 8, 2007 on 1:17 pm

Mac, hands down.

Comment by Brad - December 17, 2007 on 1:50 pm

Dan,
Did you find a London stockist of the Asus Eee?

Comment by steve - March 18, 2008 on 6:22 pm

i’m still looking for the perfect [or even nearly perfect] laptop solution and it doesn’t exist, or if it does, it comes saddled with poxy Vista.
EG the sony SZ series with 13″ screen is the perfect solution at first glance except its way too expensive and will not run XP coz they wont supply the necessary drivers.
the long awaited Airbook will run XP & looks good on paper but is very flimsy and has no optical drive so not much good in practice, you’re better off with the MacBook - except its 2.2kg!

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