A message for the boy on the 9.50 trainā¦
By Maggie Holland in Editorial
Posted in Mobile on
Learn some manners.
There I was, having woken up far too early for a Saturday morning, sitting on a Piccadilly line train en route to Hammersmith to watch Nokiaās new T4 music programme the Green Room (as part of my new job over at iGIZMO magazine) being filmed, when it happened.
A boy and his friend got on the train. Since I entered my early 20s I have been abysmal when it comes to guessing peoples ages, so I hazard a guess that he was somewhere in the region of 12-14.
So he got on the train, playing the Hoosiers āWorried about Rayā on his mobile. I know this because it was blasting out of his mobileās speakers.
As everybody seems to do in London ā nay the world generally today ā people looked p*ssed off but didnāt dare to say anything. So I did. I tapped him on the back and politely asked him if he was planning on continuing with his impromptu disco for the entire journey. He rudely told me he was.
So, naturally, I asked if he had any headphones. āNah, theyāre broken,ā he said. Risking the temptation to suggest that his phone would soon be broken too if he didnāt have some manners, I asked him to either turn it down or turn it off.
After a conversation with the yoof which went on much longer than I had ever intended and is five minutes (perhaps an exaggeration) of my life I will never get back, where he flippantly asked if Iād prefer another song and asked if he could put the now slightly-lower-in-volume-mobile nearer to me again to see if it was now ok.
All the while his friend said nothing. After a while, the kid got bored of listening to the music against his ear and gave up. Clearly his whole purpose was to attract attention ā the wrong sort ā and irritate people. Once weād had our dialogue, it seemed pointless.
So my question is. Why, oh why, oh why doe public areas not have signs telling us that it is not ok to listen to music through speakers in those areas. Or, better still, threaten offenders with fines? You canāt smoke in public places because itās bad for other peopleās health. You canāt go to the toilet in public because itās unhygienic and uncouth. You canāt have sex in public because itās against the law and not on. So, why is it ok to inflict your loud and often tasteless music on everyone else in a confined space such as a train? And why, does no one ever bloody well tell people to stop doing something that clearly annoys them?
If everybody actually stood up to these irritants, perhaps more people would think twice about doing it in the first place. I completely understand people are worried about the verbal (and often physical) abuse people who speak out often get, but there is strength in numbers and if we all did it, it would most likely have a domino effect and at least reduce the amount of incidents to begin with.
Perhaps, the mobile industry could also take a stand here and create an advertising campaign that highlights the issue and educates people ā in a fun way ā that itās just not on.
I am in no way a party pooper. I just donāt like having other peoples parties inflicted on me when I canāt escape.
What do you think? Am I just an old git or do I have a valid point?
Comment by Mike Skuse - April 21, 2008 on 4:20 pm
Wow! - I bow down to you!, I would never have the courage to face someone like that, I completely agree - Music in public is a headphones only zone - why would everyone want to listen to your music just because you cant be bothered to wear headphones?
I find that the Bus is a popular place for this crime and sadly most of the time its people in groups doing it which makes it rather intimidating.
Comment by Sharon Jackson - April 23, 2008 on 11:18 am
I too am prostrate at your feet - I would never approach anyone like that
You’re not old and fuddy-duddy Maggie, just a person who wishes others would exercise common decency when in public places. Like you say though, many people are frightened to say anything in case of causing even more trouble.
Let’s start a campaign…
Comment by Davey Winder - April 29, 2008 on 10:32 am
Heck, I am a six feet two skinhead covered in tattoos and even I would not ask some hooded teen to turn it down. Mind you, in my case it is less a physical thing and more a fear of not being able to understand a damn word the yoof says in response, innit…
Comment by Maggie Holland - April 29, 2008 on 1:05 pm
I have also asked a 6ft-plus guy playing rather loud games on his PSP to turn it down as I was very tired and emotional (read: drunk) and needed to sleep on the train. Everyone else in the carriage (including a number of tough-looking male city workers in suits) were tutting away and clearly bothered by the noise but no-one could be brave/bothered enough to do or say anything.
Rather than be rude he was taken aback by by willingness to speak out and complied.
I was always taught that manners cost nothing and, although it may one day well get me punched, I can’t help but try and fight the battle against the ‘inconsiderates’…
Comment by Jinny - May 4, 2008 on 10:15 pm
Go Maggie! Even now in this age when anyone can be decked who objects, politely, to any inconsiderate behaviour, it does actually help to be a female– you are not quite such fair game. I have successfully challenged a group of young men entertaining an entire carriage with their choice of music. Ah– but I am also nearly 60! a bit too much like their gran, maybe?!
Comment by Matt - July 25, 2008 on 1:56 pm
I’ll visit you in hospital, one day the little scrote is going to have a blade (and I don’t mean a HP server).
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